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Blog EntryIs CHATTING CHEATING?Sep 14, '04 12:27 PM
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The weather is so clammy, muggy and wet and I hate it. I feel like I’ve been robbed of some summer as Fall comes all too soon. And it doesn’t help that today, I am officially older. I’ve been in bad mood for the last 26 years now. I hate getting old, much more celebrating it.

I forced myself to pick up outdated newspapers to try to freshen my dampen spirits by reading the more ‘leisurely’ sections that I have been purposely ignoring for the past few days. Besides, I felt I also needed some diversion from all that political innuendo that I have been guilty of lately. But...

Alas! More alarming headlines. DIVORCE ON THE RISE! DIVORCE RATES ON THE 7-YEAR HIGH! UK’s Office of National Statistics deliver their bad news--- divorces in England has risen for the 3rd successive year in 2003, to more than 150,000. And the culprit? Internet love affairs.

How comforting. What does a net-manic, ‘aging‘ housebound wife with a history of chronic chatroom flirtation to do, or feel? After all, I did meet my hubby from the net. Both of us never thought that those innocent political agitprop exchange would somehow end up in romance. And if I didn’t expect it then, how can I ever be too sure that my internet addiction now will not make me stumble upon yet another true love?

Hang on, this is on the assumption that I DO flirt online, which I don’t... anymore. Unless...

Does chatting, hunting down ‘old flames’ and meeting new folks count as flirting? Is it like going in a posh shoe store thinking, "One peep won’t hurt" but somehow ending up impulsively purchasing those damn ‘choos’---your heart thumping violently with panic as you know your budget doesn’t permit it but at the same time incessantly reassuring yourself that you NEED it and you are actually saving money as you bought it at a too-good-to-be true-half-price? If so, am I then putting myself in that same vulnerable situation now? An unsettling thought, especially when I don’t trust ‘Me’.

I call up my friend who’s been there and done that, and here’s what she has to say: "I did what I did because I was very unhappy with my relationship then." Somehow, I found relief in her simple truth.
If she would rather be online than spend time communicating with her partner, then there must’ve been something wrong with the relationship to begin with. Although I never condone infidelity, at some level I understood what she meant. I was once unhappy too... but being single. I found refuge and acceptance in the company of my so-called cyber friends. There was profound meeting of minds and hearts while bypassing the usual physical attraction and intimacy that trigger romances in real life. In cyberia, those fairytale Prince Charmings and Mr Rights are out there within your postcode. A couple of badly spelled lines is much more tolerable than morning breaths plus they don’t leave the toilet seats up. All that fluttery, idyllic bliss from a blossoming romance but within a protective fortress of anonymity, shielding you from any real hurt or rejection.

The only snag is, internet may fuel these happily-ever-after fantasies but it can’t hide reality forever. Your dream-come-true internet boyfriend, 24-year old Italian hunk debonair/ high street banker may just be an unemployed 70- year old paedophile who gets his willies up by downloading porn off the net all day. And if you are a cheating spouse, then you prolly deserve it.

So having said all these, does internet really fuel secret flings that may endanger stable relationships as marriage?? I suppose this is a classic case of mistaking symptoms for causes. Internet per se does not cause relationship breakdowns. We do. We are not forced into web romances at gun point. The degree of intimacy or openness to other people is only up to the point we are willing. Sadly, most people tend to blame everything but themselves when their marriage deteriorate. I know of a woman who created an empire single-handedly with her wit and ambition, but later on, her husband left her for a mistress who can cater to his more 'domestic' needs. She was forced to bring up her children on her own until they all got married themselves. Her daughter, determined not to make the same mistakes as that of her parents, poured all her time and effort being a devout house-wife...only to be dumped too by her own hubby for hi-profile career woman.

So many motivations and ‘excuses’ to cheat. But bunging internet in the blame game is just ridiculous. Afterall, it is just a tool of technology and people will use it any way they want to (consider too all the other genuine relationships that started from this). But I have to admit, it does make it easier to set up illicit trysts AND hide one’s tracks from partner, i.e. deleting records of email exchanges, chat logs... But the point is, once the mouse decideds to play around while the cat is away, there are infinite ways, and not just inside the chatroom. I mean, do we blame the existence of bars just because we hooked up with some hottie there, behind our partners’ backs? Cheating IS betraying a trust of a loved one, and the method of adultery is irrelevant.

But how about those net lovebirds who haven’t even physically ‘pecked’ each other, does that constitute cheating too??? This is what makes internet affairs specially knotty. Its hard to categorize whether it is actually cheating when the relationship is built on emotional bonds and not on sexual intimacy.

Gosh, I just wonder how much I will hurt James if, say, he found out that I’m getting my thrills and emotional needs outside our relationship. Personally, I believe this is even more upsetting than me having a fiery, mindless one-night stand with another man. It raises red flags in the marriage when one of the spouses go elsewhere to have her/his personal needs met, whether sexual or emotional. In my book, this seriously crosses the boundaries of infidelity.

I guess the operative word here is openness with your partner. I always try to let James in on my internet life, the wonderful friends I make, my journals, or even the morons who try to hit on me. That gives him a chance to tell me when something makes him feel uncomfy. After all, the last thing I want is to lower his self-esteem or slap his inadequacies on his face (if any). Honestly, no matter how sappy this may sound, I’d rather lose the whole world wide web than lose everything else I have with James.

So here’s my Rule of Thumb for web chatting/networking: When you know that your partner disapproves or will disapprove of whatever hanky-panky you are up to online and it’s something you have to hide or lie about, then it makes infinite sense to just hit the IGNORE button. Otherwise, keep the computer on, because when you are done, you’ll never know... it'll probably the only friend you have left when all this is over.


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iamkitty wrote on Sep 15, '04
very interesting. =)

two of my friends met their then-boyfriends-but-now-husbands online; on the other hand, i also did my share of online flirting before i got married.

and you're right. these avenues of communication (and i'm sure more of them will be invented in the coming decades) aren't the causes of our relationship problems. we are.

but then again, the more we have of them (easy lines of communication), the more chances we have for screwing up our real-world relationships.

my personal advice would be to keep up an online affair with your husband... now wouldn't that be steamy? =)
twilightprincess wrote on Sep 16, '04
Online affair with hubby.... Oooohhh... I like that!

Yeah I agree with you, the more accesible these communication tools are, the easier it is for cheaters to cheat AS WELL AS for their spouses to catch em. Once the intention to cheat is there, one can just go to chatrooms, subscribe to dating websites etc... on the other hand, if you are a suspicious of your spouse, you can always check chat logs, text logs, email, online bank statements... But then if you find yourself doing any of these two, then there is definitely a relationship niggle. Either trust has been betrayed OR trust isn't there. Both are of great consequence.
go4thn wrote on Sep 16, '04
I guess the operative word here is openness with your partner. I always try to let James in on my internet life, the wonderful friends I make, my journals, or even the morons who try to hit on me. That gives him a chance to tell me when something makes him feel uncomfy. After all, the last thing I want is to lower his self-esteem or slap his inadequacies on his face (if any). Honestly, no matter how sappy this may sound, I'd rather lose the whole world wide web than lose everything else I have with James.

This is the point I want to highlight. The importance of openness in internet life and how lucky James is. Seriously, one of the battles one has with the internet is within oneself. It is just so easy to justify that what one is doing is not going to hurt anyone only to find out one has actually been fooling oneself. And its so easy to get sucked up in that emotional whirlpool.

Anyway, one control point I have is when I watch children's behaviour on the net. How they flirt, how it worries me, and makes me reflect if they do this because they see me doing it. Sometimes the controls hurt. No IRC programs allowed in this PC. Yahoo Messenging only to the people we actually know.

My adviser, I guess, sums it up right. Is what you are doing really going to make your life any better? Or are you just putting yourself unnecessarily at risk? Others will argue that that makes life a little boring. Others however will say they prefer living a boring life that a life in shambles. In the long run, it really depends on the life one wants to live.
twilightprincess wrote on Sep 17, '04
You raised some valid points, especially on the issue of children. I don't have children yet, but like you, its a very important consideration amidst all these. Just the thought of my own daughter doing the same stuff I did (being vulnerable and stuffing my head with fantasies), is a scary thought in itself.

I actually pondered about what you've written down: " Is what you are doing really going to make your life any better? Or are you just putting yourself unnecessarily at risk?" . Hmmm... I still don't have definite answers but I'm pretty sure I won't be quitting this diversion any time soon. It keeps me sane in this insane country. If anything goes wrong, I'll let you guys in on it, then maybe you can conk me in the head and say " I told you so." Hihihiihi.
vanillakram wrote on Sep 17, '04
I guess it also holds true for texting, right?
twilightprincess wrote on Sep 18, '04
I guess it also holds true for texting, right?
Oh yes! Well at least for me. One of people, hmm, let's just say VERY close to me, caught her husband having an affair through the celfone. Its sad cuz something as simple and as useful as text messaging can actually contribute to the breakdown of a family and the children having to endure a broken home.
vanillakram wrote on Sep 18, '04
Oh yes! Well at least for me. One of people, hmm, let's just say VERY close to me, caught her husband having an affair through the celfone. Its sad cuz something as simple and as useful as text messaging can actually contribute to the breakdown of a family and the children having to endure a broken home.
hmmm... what a pity! I know someone's boyfriend who flirts with girls via text messaging.. he said it was "just a harmless past time and besides, she's the only girl for him"... what a jerk!
thedarktower wrote on Sep 22, '04
hmmm... what a pity! I know someone's boyfriend who flirts with girls via text messaging.. he said it was "just a harmless past time and besides, she's the only girl for him"... what a jerk!
i feel offended. :( i don’t have a girlfriend right now, but even if i did, i see nothing wrong with flirting through texting. i wouldn’t even take it against my girlfriend if SHE was flirting through texting. flirting through texting, in my opinion, is not only harmless but may actually be helpful to one's relationship cause this way, boyfriend and girlfriend won’t get sick and tired of limiting the spicy conversation between the 2 of them. thus, their dialogues will always be fresh.

of course both partners should have first gained each other’s trust. one has to draw the line between flirting and outright cheating. flirting should have no intentions of possessing the person one is flirting with. it should just be a game one has no intention of winning.

on the other hand, it is probably due to ideas and philosophies like this that has always made me an unattached person all my life. :(
twilightprincess wrote on Sep 22, '04
thedarktower, u know ur gonna get the stick for even suggesting those ideas, don't u? Hehehe For me, I dunno, maybe I'm a closet conservative, but the whole swinger culture ain't my cuppa. If I ever find James flirting with someone else, whether upfront or on the sly, I'll wring his neck with his own genitals. Let's just leave it at that. Besides, all those calories he will burn for flirting with someone else has much better use inside the bedroom, WITH ME!

I don't mean to be brutal mate, but have you ever tested this 'theory' of yours with an actual person, within the context of a real relationship??? Just wondering.

I also don't get your rationale when u say,

"flirting should have no intentions of possessing the person one is flirting with. it should just be a game one has no intention of winning."

I find that somewhat 'pathetic' (for lack of a more polite word).

So what's the use of going out 'trouting' when you very well know that there ain't fishes in the pond? Mere display of machismo? A means to buff one's ego?

Enuff said. Now if you'd excuse me, I better go back to my chamber in Hell, mutilating Casanova, Don Juan and their philandering peers...
thejourney wrote on Sep 22, '04
it all boils down to the individual personal needs & emotional condition at that current time..

at the end of the day, we tend to experiment new things without the consent of the other half because it gives that unique 'once off' adrenaline rush of trying not to get caught.. and this applies in everything e.g. verbal flirting, shopping, movies, yadda yadda yadda

if your partner caught you in the act of cheating any of the above, sometimes its easy to forgive and forget.. well, that depends on what you cheated on..

now, if your partner caught you with your pants down with another person.. do the maths ;-)
vanillakram wrote on Sep 23, '04
thedarktower, u know ur gonna get the stick for even suggesting those ideas, don't u? Hehehe For me, I dunno, maybe I'm a closet conservative, but the whole swinger culture ain't my cuppa. If I ever find James flirting with someone else, whether upfront or on the sly, I'll wring his neck with his own genitals. Let's just leave it at that. Besides, all those calories he will burn for flirting with someone else has much better use inside the bedroom, WITH ME!

I don't mean to be brutal mate, but have you ever tested this 'theory' of yours with an actual person, within the context of a real relationship??? Just wondering.

I also don't get your rationale when u say,

"flirting should have no intentions of possessing the person one is flirting with. it should just be a game one has no intention of winning."

I find that somewhat 'pathetic' (for lack of a more polite word).

So what's the use of going out 'trouting' when you very well know that there ain't fishes in the pond? Mere display of machismo? A means to buff one's ego?

Enuff said. Now if you'd excuse me, I better go back to my chamber in Hell, mutilating Casanova, Don Juan and their philandering peers...
twilight princess, I strongly agree with you!
twilightprincess wrote on Sep 24, '04
it all boils down to the individual personal needs & emotional condition at that current time..

at the end of the day, we tend to experiment new things without the consent of the other half because it gives that unique 'once off' adrenaline rush of trying not to get caught.. and this applies in everything e.g. verbal flirting, shopping, movies, yadda yadda yadda

if your partner caught you in the act of cheating any of the above, sometimes its easy to forgive and forget.. well, that depends on what you cheated on..

now, if your partner caught you with your pants down with another person.. do the maths ;-)
Aye aye!

But I must say though that getting the 'kicks' from doing something behind the partner's back is... hmmm... a guy thing. I know its a 'controversial' thing to say but maybe I just met too many guys and too few women who share that same 'fetish'. (even if it involves something as mundane as shopping).

At some point I understand what you mean, I used to do that A LOT,not with my hubby, but with my folks (sneaking out to parties or whatever mischief)... and feels sooooooo goood... until I get caught... and the world comes crashing down on me.
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